Russ of the BML
11:01 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
southbankbornnbred 10:31 Tue May 14
Well articulated. Sums it up perfectly for me.
I would also like to add that I think alot of the pundits issue with West Ham simply comes from the class system within football.
We have had a few exciting years under Moyes what with Euro football and some good league finishes. But that's all ingrained within exactly what you described.
But they look down at us - Playing in Europe, not fighting relegation, winning a Euro trophy and they see us grumbling at the detail and the true context and it forms a question in their head which is "Who do you think you are?".
It's all based around a 'how dare you want more" position of authority. I mean, little old West Ham - Getting out their station demanding European football, good results in the league AND exciting entertaining football.
I can't help seeing Harry Secombe in Oliver - "More! You want more?" when all Oliver Twist wanted was some more gruel.
|
Rossal
10:54 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
I dont think i've ever seen us have as big as a shithouse season as this one. Finishing top half is extremely fortunate and deceiving when you look at our wins.
Chelsea - played shit, they missed a pen and we shithoused a win 2nd half
Brighton - Thought we played well, but was a counter attack masterclass and we didnt touch the ball much. Remeber facing a barrage of shots last half hour or so
Luton - Set piece goals i think, then very lucky JWP didnt give away a pen right at the end
Sheff Utd - Played alright but theyre shit
Notts Forest - Played alright, had to rely on a winner near the end
Burnley - Played shit, shithoused 2 goals at the end
Spurs - Played shit first half, shithoused 2 goals second half
Wolves - Good performance, one of the best all year
Man Utd - Did ok, 2 mistakes from them gave us the goals
Arsenal away - Played well, but again bit shithouse.....faced a barrage of shots yet again
Brentford - Probably the best performance of the season
Everton - Played shit, shithoused it at the end
Wolves - Awful first half, shithoused the 2nd half.....a penalty and a goal direct from a corner ffs
Luton - First half awful, good 2nd half
So whats that, 5 wins that were deserved this season max? Roll on august!
|
southbankbornnbred
10:31 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
The 'careful what you wish for crowd' - particularly the pundits - probably watch three West Ham games a season: when we lose to Man City, when we upset Arsenal and when we're indifferent against Man Utd. Because they're the only occasions when Garth Crooks and Alan Monotone et al are asked to watch us as part of their job.
So, in all fairness to them, they have none of the context of watching Moyesball that we do. Because they are generally lazy fuckers who 'follow' us only by newspaper headlines and results. They read a headline about a draw against Spurs and think: Spurs = bigger revenues than West Ham and therefore that means West Ham/Moyes have overperformed. Because they are generally a bit thick and think football is played on a spreadsheet.
They don't have to pay expensively to watch a side 'enjoy' little more than a quarter of the game's possession - even against clubs like Brighton, or watch the terminally negative and unambitious "low block" with nine players hurling their bodies behind the ball and camped out on their own 18 yard box. And they don't realise that Moyes is happy for that to happen, and that it is all done by design. They think other teams have 'just' outpassed us.
The CWYWFs don't have to endure Moyes' lack of football ambition, his predictability, his robot-style tactics, draining of inventiveness (outside of the final third of the pitch), inability to develop youngsters, and inability to rotate possession. They don't have to watch our #9 starved of the ball, outside the area, all day and chasing hopeless lost causes and full backs into the 'channels' for 98 minutes every weekend.
They don't have to watch his ludicrously selective DATA-driven approach - the one that had him criticising his £35m Italy #9 for not working hard enough. You know, the #9 who Liverpool couldn't handle this season.
And they don't realise that we had that every weekend - and often twice a week - every week for four and a half years. It has been draining watching David Moyes' West Ham because we are so out of touch with modern football.
I wish him all the best in the future - genuinely. It was never anything personal with Moyes. His moment on the pitch with his dad in Prague made him human again. Because I genuinely thought we were managed by an early, shit AI programme before that. He drained the soul from football.
I hope Lopetegui restores at least some of it. Have my doubts, but will always give any West Ham manager a chance. So let's look forward.
|
Eerie Descent
10:04 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
It wasn't hard to imagine what would happen in the second half of the season, there was enough of us on here predicting that not having the football for 70% of games was not sustainable throughout the season.
Taking Brighton in isolation, we scored 3 great goals, which was nice, but every other second of the game was an excruciating watch. They absolutely peppered us, Areola produced one of the best goalkeeping performances you'll ever see.
This is all been said enough, but let's not re-write history pretend that our 2024 form has been a shock. It's not, that's been our form for 2 years, we were just outrageously lucky the first half of this season.
|
Texas Iron
9:47 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
And he trousered ver 20 MILLIONQUID while he was here..
Money for old rope…
|
Cheezey Bell-End
6:42 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
Brighton was great. A rare win against them, a team I dislike. Coming while we were still basking in post Prague glory. It was hard to imagine in swinging the other way to completely dire, though we knew it would happen before long.
|
Manuel
5:54 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
Balto - Funny you should say that as Brighton away was a real highlight for me this season, loved seeing how we picked them off at pace on the break with our fans banked behind that goal, but of course that type of play isn't sustainable over a season.
|
Balto
5:48 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
This year we have the lowest possession stats of all the teams in the EPL. 27%.
When we beat Brighton away, 3-1 at the beginning of the season we had three break away chances and scored from all three. It was a terrible watch. The second we stopped winning and played the same the wheels came off.
|
Balto
5:48 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
This year we have the lowest possession stats of all the teams in the EPL. 27%.
When we beat Brighton away, 3-1 at the beginning of the season we had three break away chances and scored from all three. It was a terrible watch. The second we stopped winning and played the same the wheels came off.
|
lowlife
3:05 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
I bet that’ll get the confidence flowing through the team knowing that their manager isn’t sure they’d beat the under 14s.
Good grief. Our best manager since Lyall, apparently.
|
Massive Attack
2:38 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
Such a defeatist, right till the end...
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/n2wC4a7LMJf5ts6k/
|
lowlife
2:31 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
Garth Crooks at it with the ‘careful what you wish for’. Another idiot pundit;
“As for Moyes, well, he has departed on good terms and left the club in a far better state than when he arrived. The West Ham fans have driven him out and wait to see what Julen Lopetegui can do. Be careful what you wish for”
|
paul6565
1:41 Tue May 14
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
We won a trophy yes.. Fabulous.
But the football the last two seasons has been fucking awful and has turned a lot of us away from watching football, thats how fucking bad it has been.. Thats not helping to build a club, thats protecting his position as manager. Anyone who hires this cunt is in for total football fucking misery.
|
BillyJenningsBoots
7:34 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
2left
Time will tell... Im not the one thats bitter though... Im happy we have a new manager... I turned against Moyes not just because of results as Ive said many times before... Id be happy with a better style and someone who has the best interests and the future of the club at the heart of what they are doing... I didnt hate Bilic or Pellegrini and I cant recall wanting them out and certainly not in the way I wanted Moyes out...
I feel confident we are in a better place and I wont be calling for him to leave if we dont win a trophy in the next 2+ years unlike some...
|
BillyJenningsBoots
7:27 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
York... lol didn't see that wo deres what you were talking about 😆
|
Lee Trundle
6:09 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
hahaha - you do make me laugh, 'feet.
You flipped-flopped how many times with Moyes?
Plus you've admitted you didn't support the manager when Allardyce was at the club.
|
twoleftfeet
5:45 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
BJB
I'll be throwing my support behind Lopetegui the same as I did Moyes.
Unlike you I don't have an agenda, I support the club and therefore support the man in charge.
I've experienced the bad times and that's why I've enjoyed the stability of the Moyes reign.
You and your knicker wetting mates will be the first to jump on the " lopetegui out " post.
|
Yorkammer
4:57 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
BillyJenningsBoots 3:42 Mon May 13
You need to cut out that groping. Not acceptable these days.
|
Pagey
4:42 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
Calm down Billy, it’s a joke
|
BillyJenningsBoots
3:42 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
2left
And in 4 years Im pretty sure we wont be talking about the previous 2 + years being dog shit football and a small squad with ageing players and no path for youth players... those are my gropes not the trophy or first 2 years league position which was great... just to contextualise for the hard of thinking!
Itll be you and yours that will be chucking Moyes in our faces if Loppy doesnt get us Chamions League and trophy!!!!
|
BillyJenningsBoots
3:36 Mon May 13
Re: Moyes Out ( Released )
|
Ha ha look at pagey acting like the school wimp getting all feisty cos Soldos there to support him...
Twoleft
That award is all yours and your Moysie boy gimps for your total backing of Moyes inspite of all the facts 👍
|
| 
